for the mail art world . we use new and old school stuff . Buster Cleveland and Ginny Lloyd who i met at the art com studios for zerox copy show in the early 80's in san francisco .

from public t.v.

January 28 original airdateThe Fine Art of CollectingSpark shows that collecting can be an art form unto itself, when we meet collectors who have turned a casual interest into a lifelong passion. Spend the day with John Held Jr., who saved every scrap of mail art he received, day after day for almost 30 years, as he continues to build his collection, one stamp at a time.